The Botereid

Wednesday, October 13, 2004

Debate #3

First live blog, so have some mercy...

8:59 FIRST POINT! FIRST POINT! Yankees score in the bottom of the first.

Damn, this is going to be the most exciting post in the debate...

9:00 My wife, Monique, is frightened that Bush winked at Kerry when they both walked out. It was pretty saucy.

9:06 Damn, they're both opening up strong. Bush is a little better.

9:07 Good riposte by Kerry. Bad lie by Bush on not having said that about Bin Laden, and I don't think many people were convinced by the "exaggeration." Then again, maybe it wasn't a lie. He really might not have remembered that he actually said it.

9:12 "Litany of complaints." Bush was just waiting for that word (ie plan).

9:15 Kerry: You're sounding incoherent, boring, and repetitive. You really need to get back to the quick first response.

Then again, Bush's smirks aren't looking good either.

Monique just pointed out the real hidden weapon: Bush has gone to the red tie. Kerry's been doing that for weeks.

9:16 Man, Bush's "pay-go" joke blew.

Bush has been talking much, much slower. He sounds like he's trying to fit the description most liberals peg him with. You think he realized that he didn't have enough facts to fill the time the last few debates?

9:18 Monique just pointed out the spittle in the President's mouth. It's pretty disturbing. He's also looking above the camera. That's pretty strange too.

9:24 Bush is definitely yelling at us again. "Furious George" is back.

9:25 Bush is pretty good on the gay question. I mean, it's not like he can win on it, but he's doing as well as he can.

9:27 Kerry sounded like a scumbag talking about Cheney's daughter. Plus, he should've knocked that question out the park. What happened to talking about not messing with the Constitution? It certainly didn't sound like that was what he was talking about.

9:29 These are pretty good questions...straight up gay rights question to Bush, abortion question to Kerry -- about as tough as you can get on domestic issues for these guys.

9:30 Damn, Kerry kicked the ass out of the abortion-stem cell question. "Bold" was the word that came to mind, and that doesn't come to mind often when you think of this guy.

9:34 "The, Buggy...and, horse, days."

Bush looked surprised that the words "information technology" appeared on the briefing notes he brought in with him. He didn't know you could put them together like that.

9:36 Boring. These guys need to get punchier. Where's the wit?

9:39 "It's not a government plan."

It certainly seems so. I see what Kerry's saying, but that phrase still makes him sound ridiculous. Let's see if Bush jumps on it. He certainly looks like he wants to.

Note: He made much more sense the second time he said it.

9:52 I don't think Kerry's going to get the same bounce from this debate. This debate just doesn't have the wallop the last two did.

9:54 Um, that was two "secondly's," Kerry. Hell, if we go at Bush for it...

9:57 "Should we raise the minimum wage?" "Well, I'm glad you raised that question. It's long overdue that we raise it...People who are raising their families need this raise in the wage."

Where's Wonkette when you need her?

9:58 "No Child Left Behind is really a job act." (Smile.) That didn't come off well.

10:05 Kerry could have been a lot better on the "backdoor draft" question.

Bush: Our kids are excited to be going over to Iraq.

Monique: Because they don't know they aren't going to be able to come back.

10:07 Bush finally brings up Kerry's vote against the first Gulf War. Helluva rebuttal on that.

10:08 Oh shit, Kerry better hit this SALT treaty and weapons ban business out of the park...

10:11 ...and he did. Goddamn did he. (Monique agrees.)

10:13 Read, write, add and subtract early. Um...I think you need a little more than that...

10:16 Kerry's gonna bring up the Abe Lincoln quote. You heard it here first.

10:18 Damn, I got a lot more work to do on the old soothsayin'.

10:20 Monique: "Poor John McCain."

10:23 Surprise, surprise. Bush is gonna come out sounding way better on the question about women.

10:24 Oh my god. What the hell did Kerry just say? "Marry up"? Don't try to compete on the jokes!

Ok...he saved himself a bit. You gotta give in to the self-deprecation.

Kerry comes off so much better when he talks about his family.

10:26 Kerry: I-deeeerr?

10:27 Kerry's closing statement is words, words, words.

10:28 Bush begins his statement very strong and takes it nowhere. Armies of compassion: lame.

Overall. I have some logic work to do so I'm going to keep this short. It was pretty soporific. And yet...this was Bush's best debate. He sounded steady as opposed to just saying the word "steady" over and over. He was amiable, and about as coherent as he gets. That said, it was still pretty even. Kerry did what he had to do. He didn't overstretch. He didn't sound too incompetent to do the job. In sum, neither changed my opinion a whit.

Election Prediction. This debate didn't do much for either candidate. I think the undecideds, a segment that happens to be strongly against Bush's re-election, didn't hear anything they didn't know already. They'll keep sliding to Kerry. Unless there's catastrophic news in the next few weeks, this election will be the senator's, and by a fair margin.

Postscript. On Calvin Coolidge, courtesy of a better writer than I.

Well, there is surely something to say for that abstinence, and maybe a lot. I can find no relation of cause and effect between the Coolidge somnolence and the Coolidge prosperity, but it is nevertheless reasonable to argue that if the former had been less marked the latter might have been blown up sooner. We suffer most, not when the White House is a peaceful dormitory, but when it is a jitney Mars Hill, with a tin-pot Paul bawling from the roof. Counting out Harding as a cipher only, Dr. Coolidge was preceded by one World Saver and followed by two more. What enlightened American, having to choose between any of them and another Coolidge, would hesitate for an instant? There were no thrills while he reigned, but neither were there any headaches. He had no ideas, and he was not a nuisance.

And I'll tell you what, America wants another Calvin Coolidge. So, will the senator from Massachusetts step right up? That's right, you. True, you're verbose rather than pithy, but nobody's perfect. True, you've got no ideas, but you've got plenty of plans. And best of all, you won't be a nuisance. Like prostitution. Or organized crime. Hell, we may not love you, John Kerry, but it looks like we'll take you.

1 Comments:

  • America wants another Calvin Coolidge.Damn straight. The best President for our times is one that won't be able to screw anything up. And won't let congress screw anything up. Too bad we can't just dig up Calvin and have him run.

    By Blogger flaime, at 8:46 AM  

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